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Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 27, 2012 at 8:34am

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Fun and educational link

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 26, 2012 at 11:55am

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The American Ideal of 1776 The Twelve Basic American Principles  by Hamilton Abert Long, ©1976 Intelligent choice--between 1776 Americanism and conflicting Isms (chiefly Socialism in the USA today)--requires primarily thorough knowledge of these Principles. The book is the essential tool for all who wish to be worthy trustees for today’s children and future generations of their just heritage: this Ideal, its eternal values and the supporting Constitution, as The Founders intended. They believed to default about this is to betray.(emphasis the author's) - The Author, from his Note About the Book

Author's Introduction and Information regarding the Author Commendations of the book appearing on the original cover Author's extensive introductory quotes on the subjects being discussed. Part I: Twelve Basic American Principles: Author's Prefatory Note regarding the Principles 1. The Spiritual is Supreme 2. Fear of Government-over-Man 3. Unalienable Rights--From God 4. Man Organizes Governments to Be His Tools 5. Limited Government 6. Decentralized Government 7. Equal, By God's Gift, In Sight of God and Law 8. Life and the Pursuit of Happiness 9. Liberty--Against Government-over-Man 10. Private Property--Liberty's Support 11. Taxes--Limited to Safeguard Liberty 12. The Majority--Limited for Liberty Part II: Some Aspects of the Traditional American Philosophy Author's Preliminary Comment The Traditional American Philosophy--A Definite, Unique, American Philosophy of Government Does Exist--Composed of a Set of Specific, Fundamental, Traditional Principles The Two Revolutions of 1776--for Individual Liberty and for Independence Evolution a Main Part of the Revolution Uniqueness of the Twin Revolution Magna Carta's King-granted Rights Understanding the American Heritage Comments About A Few of the Sources Consulted Regarding Definition of the American Principles "The Federalist"--A Rich Source of Sound Knowledge An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic The Planning in 1776-1788--That the New Government Be a Republic The Federated System of Republics in America Representative Government--a Chief Characteristic of a Republic Limited Government in Relation to the "Bill of Rights" (or Prohibitions) Limited Government In Relation to Some Fields of Power Prohibited to the Federal Government Limited Government in Relation to The Constitution's Treaty Clause Limited Government in Relation to the Role of the Supreme Court Limited Government under the Constitution in Relation to Religious Considerations Which the Declaration of Independence Makes Express Limited Government and Individual Enterprise and the Profit Motive--Soundness Ethically, Morally, Socially and Otherwise Concluding Comment as to Background Material Part III: All Honor to the Founders Respect Due The Founders Refutation of the Charge That The Framers Perpetrated a Coup d'etat The Founders' Concept of "Property"--Embracing All Rights--Not Merely Things Material The Just Heritage of Posterity Always Uppermost in The Founders' Minds Samuel Adams' Warning A 1765 Call to Action--"Educate Young and Old: For Liberty"--As Timely Today as When Originally Made --------(End of Primary Sections)-------- Author's Additional Comment Regarding Charles A. Beard's 1913 Book The Supreme Court's Ruling in the 1905 South Carolina Case: The Original Meaning is Controlling Brief Biographical Notes A Few of the Writings Repeatedly Quoted (list from the book) Author Finder - Not functional until page numbers are translated to hypertext links. Acknowledgements - Includes additional copyright information.

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 27, 2012 at 2:54pm

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 28, 2012 at 12:18pm

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“ Life is a system of half-truths and lies. Opportunistic, convenient evasion. ”

— Langston Hughes

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 28, 2012 at 2:31pm

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Law foundation 

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 29, 2012 at 7:28am

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I would not agree with this interpretation f the Constitution - here is the 10th amendment which defines "ALL THE POWERS OF THE STATES.

Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

To use the word NULLIFY is confusing some - If the Federal Legislature over steps it's powers and usurps then the States is within it's Constitutional duties to protect the people and their freedoms buy "REJECTION" [nullify] of the law as if were null void and never existed at all. WE must remember the first 10 amendments were caused by the ANTI - FEDERALISTS and made to protect the States and the people from tyranny and oppression like all suffered under the strong monarchy of the Kings.  

So, now we can then see, yes there is the intended power for the States to be more powerful than the Federal government when the Federal government reaches outside the ARTICLE I SECTION 8 enumerated powers. If the Founders did not intend this then why was it so stated - it would have no purpose and the States would have no remedy to protect the people from a new dictator. If the Federal government needs new power then it must go to the many state legislatures using ARTICLE V and create, debate and pass a new amendment.

The difficulty of the Article V amendment process was intention on the part of the FOUNDERS/FRAMERS/RATIFIERS - they clearly desired to control the Federal government and limit it's powers over the States and the people. The Constitution was written in clear simple words or common usage and so all the citizens of that time period could read and understand the document and it's powers. WE have since tried to change the meanings of words, used introductory of general statements regarding the limits [enumerated powers].

Again, the Founders created a timeless Constitution and intended it to be firm and and fair - not adjusted at the whims of a new group of politicians that usurp powers. If they did not intend for the Constitution to be timeless the would have added language that allowed changes in culture over the centuries; but no they knew that changes were not good and the states should be where changes in culture are exhibited. Therefore they gave us the Article V amendment process to make those changes that are required to adjust for time and needs. Thew proof that changes have occurred are the 27 times the Constitution has been amended.

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 29, 2012 at 11:26am

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"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 29, 2012 at 12:42pm

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That is also my understanding, Atlas.
http://constitution.i2i.org/category/article-v-convention/

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on February 29, 2012 at 12:44pm

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Interesting 17A-related link:

Duffy on Starting a Local Repeal the 17th Group (found better link)

previous link

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on March 1, 2012 at 2:41pm

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The Standing case thread from Hellraiser

http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/forum/topics/the-supreme-courts-mo...

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Permalink Reply by lisa kit on March 2, 2012 at 5:05pm

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Check this out, FROZEN thread on national news out of AZ:http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/03/01/20120301...

ALL NATIONAL NEWS is being centered around "sever weather"

News reporter's death is being reported "Natural Cause" BEFORE any autopsy report.  Same reporter been touting March 1st.

Now it's being laughed at as a "Conspiracy Theory"!!

Must be something to it.

Guess if they use predator drones in the US it would be too obvious.

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Permalink Reply by Mangus Colorado, Moderator on March 2, 2012 at 5:15pm

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Lisa,

I have been following that issue and have watched the videos - it will be interesting to see where this goes -