- Piatt, Lock SS# 527-01-3005 issued in: AZ dob: 6 Jul 1910 dod: May 1982 CA Residence: Homeland, California 923482 Piatt, Lorenzo SS# 551-05-9406 issued in: CA dob: 5 May 1902 dod: Jan 1974 CA Residence: Venice, California 90291
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- Mangus: Man of wisdom, man of years, man of visionWhat does this election mean and where is all of this heading? What was that whole election really and truly about and what will happen to the primary issues which were at hand?Will the economics come tumbling down? News here seems to say China is slowing which is bad for Oz. When there is no money to borrow what will the US do? Will the US economy be cured?Does the Constitution exist? It seems the People have placed their votes and opinions larger than the Constitution. Mob politics of 2012 will now extend onward. When the mob chants what they want without regard to the Constitution... what will result?People speak of demographics changing. In many aspects this is a four letter concept masked in a ballroom dress. However one views the matter, the force is with the group that gathers votes... without regard to right or wrong. Demographics over vision and truth. What does this all mean?What is the ship of the US sailing for and when will it arrive it's destination?I am sure about man of ages and not so sure about the others. However I will attempt to give you my opinion of paths to doom or paths to restoration.The Constitution is still the law of the land but is not enforced as all three branches are usurping powers not given. So, now how and when do Americans see this and force the changes to put the genie of gifts and free stuff back in the bottle. The single best answer for this problem is for 38 States to write an amendment to revoke the 14th amendment [which will put the courts back under the limits of Article III], the 16th amendment [income tax which will starve the beast] and the 17th amendment [which will put the Senate back in the control of the State Legislatures].This will restore the powers of the 10th amendment and make the concept of 51 Separate Republics a reality again. The 50 States would then control the Federal beast as all spending not authorized in the Constitution would not be funded or agreed to by the 50 Sovereign Republics.Now if this does not happen in time then there will be war starting in Europe and the Middle East, for in all of history the only way out of financial collapse has been war. Every war in history was fought over wealth, yes even the American civil war was over money - the South was rich because of cotton and the North had none and in fact had problems feeding themselves in winter. The Crusades was not about Islam V. Christianity - it was about wealth and sea ports and farm lands. WWI was about wealth and assassination of a royal to get more wealth. WWII was about wealth and access to markets for raw materials.Politics claim to be responsible Nazi, Communism, Capitalism, Monarchy, all claim to be the solution to solve equability and the sad state of the economy. For any of these groups to obtain power they must create fear and then anger/hate - the road to war is not long when financial distress is present. Look at history as the finances of a culture go rocky there is war either of aggression or of defense as one is attacked to gain the others wealth.The time is close as the fuse has been lite in the Middle East and in Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy soon to add France as the Islamist take to the streets as they did years back when they burned 30,000 cars. The tipping point is near and many things can happen quickly.So in closing let me quote a ancient Chinese curse MAY YOU LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES = meaning many many problems.
From Stephen Oram to Mangus Colorado
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- The answers we all seek are not in the party structures they lie in desires for free stuff or free liberties and rights - There can be no political solution in DC for the three Branches of government have each CREATED extra Constitutional powers [usurping] so that they can have more control over the people and the flow of money.I am sorry to see so much time and effort being spent of a third party situation that can not and will not change a damn thing for it divides the factions of the right and leaves the factions of the left in tact - so now you have 24% + 25% losing election to 51% = total failure of the concept.The only answer lies in the Article V State amendment to revoke the 14th, 16th and 17th amendments - this leaves the Federal government weak and without money for bribes and a Senate that answers to the State legislatures not the votes of Democracy but the Republic form of limited government.Watch the videos and read - you will soon see the light at the end of the tunnel and it is not the train that is now bearing down on us. It is the sunshine of Freedom and Liberty for all.
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- Is this not the train wreak we are now facing - the Founders were indeed wise.The Constitution . . . meant that its coordinate branches should be checks on each other. But the opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch. - Letter to Abigail Adams (1804) Thomas Jefferson
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- Money does not yield success - look at the Lottery winners in the USA - most are bankrupt in less than 10 years so money is not the equalizer - not all twins have equal abilities so are intellectually gifted while the other is not - one goes to music and the other to business.ALL HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES ALL ARE LIMITED ONLY BY THEMSELVES AND THEIR INDIVIDUAL DESIRE TO SUCCEED.I knew a Italian immigrant that could barely speak English, he started doing yard work in a very expensive Southern California neighborhood - he worked so hard and fast delivering top level work products. Soon he was doing every house in the entire neighborhood and soon he purchased one of the homes with cash. He was not that bright or educated but he was driven by a need to succeed and was willing to work 20 hours per day if that is what it took.Money did not make him a winner - hard work and dedication did, no government helped him. You keep going back to the idea that inherited wealth give one individual an advantage over the other. Read this story about the inventor of duckduckgo.com. He did one business and sold it for $ 10 million but then started another. Why did he not just do the European thing and take a retirement on the beach?
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- You are now sounding more like Carl . . ?? China is not a problem - china has more problems than they can finance at home - they have been placing money in American bonds to have a bailout fund if the people rebel. They have a huge problem of mass migration from the rural areas of uneducated people demanding jobs and homes. China can not create jobs fast enough as they become a higher than average wage scales than other Asian and Indian communities.News flash - china lost more manufacturing jobs over the last decade than the the EU of America. America is still the number one manufacturing economy on earth. So what some see is what they read from uninformed sources. Chinese Corporations have closed factories in China and moved them to Viet Nam. Humm what now? No more boogie man China like Europe are doomed with LEGACY COSTS AND SHRINKING FREEDOM FROM TAXES AND GOVERNMENT CONFISCATIONS OF WEALTH AND PROPERTY.IF AMERICANS STOP BUYING CHINESE PRODUCT FOR 6 MONTHS OR A SINGLE YEAR CHINA WILL FAIL.
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- Your position is supportive of the pack of wolfs taking citizens goods and monies under the threat of punishment. Humm now you have finally buried your idea of equality - you are one of the robbers at my door just taking my work product without my permission - majority rule would allow 50% plus 1 vote to take all of the property of the 49.9% - there is nothing that prevents this and that is why Democracies have always failed as the majority takes to much and the producers withdraw or cause a war to overthrow the government and form a dictatorship.No Sir your ideas are pure socialism heading to anarchy and a dictatorship like most third world nations have done many many times over the last 150 years. Million die and all lose their wealth and are forced to live in filth and poverty. See East Germany.
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- Tom, Let me make a general statement about taking from the rich to give to the poor. Like the lottery you give millions to a poor person and they will return to poor in less than 10 years in most cases. Even if government took all the wealth away form the successful business people they would have it all back in a single generation for they know how to earn profits that is the secret to wealth.As one digs deeper into the national character of the Americans, one sees that they have sought the value of everything in this world only in the answer to this single question: how much money will it bring in?
Alexis de TocquevilleYou might enjoy visiting the Hoover Institute at Stanford University and read the works and papers of Dr. Thomas Sowell. He explains the transitions from poor to rich and how common it is for the poor to move to the middle class.Another would be Dr. Walter Williams of gorge Washington UniversityBoth of these men are black and self made intellectuals of the first order and both economists.
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- Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty.
PlatoTo cure the British disease with socialism was like trying to cure leukaemia with leeches.
Margaret Thatcher
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- Mangus,
I think you adress a very impotant point, a weak spot of every democracy. People tend to vote for politicians who promise short term benefits instead of sustainable and wise long term programs.We see this today in South-Europe, esspecially in greece.But in Germany we do not think that every social walfare program is per se just a short term spending.
For Example in Germany colleges are basically free, when you like to become an engineer, a doctor or a teacher etc. you just pay just very small fee (I think around $100 for 6 Month)German Companies profited a lot of this, esspecially in the field of engeneering, because the supply of very good educated people has always been secured.So some walfare spending could be a long term investment into overall economical growth.
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