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Comment by Publius Huldah on November 21, 2011 at 4:34pm
Good resources?  Nah - I expect he's just repeating stuff he's read elsewhere.  No brains or thinking or logic in what he wrote. Probably a liberal/fascist.
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Comment by Larry Self on November 23, 2011 at 2:26pm
I should learn html. How do I copy all but the first chr$? I was trying to get the avatars like I saw another poster do, but I didn't pursue once I saw my result which was blank where the avatar would go. I did edit (non-html) and try to remove the blank avatars but that didn't change the indention. Just left it.
Comment by Vern Shotwell on November 23, 2011 at 2:10pm
Gosh, you ticked Lock off!
Tip: I see your indention! If you copy/paste all but the first chr$, indention will not occur! You can type it in later.
I am not involved in this. To quote Shultz, I know Nothing!
Comment by Larry Self on November 23, 2011 at 11:16am
PH - Piatt's OCD reply.
Comment by Larry Self on November 22, 2011 at 6:44pm
Thank you, PH.  I pasted and posted your two entries after many of my own.
Comment by Publius Huldah on November 22, 2011 at 4:56pm
Thank you, Larry.  Feel free to quote me, as you deem appropriate, in order to warn others about Piatt, and to steer them to a place where they can get the documented original intent [that would be here]. It is distressing to see people using TPN to mislead the gullible among us.
Comment by Publius Huldah on November 22, 2011 at 4:35pm
Lock Piatt doesn't know what he is talking about.  His claim to fame is that he is a fertile source of misinformation.  I would say that he illustrates the principle that "a little information is a dangerous thing" - except that he doesn't even have "a little information".
Ignorance & Pride combined in one person are deadly.  He has refused instruction from one who really does know.  It is best to ignore everything he says. 
Comment by Land Shark aka Bob E on November 22, 2011 at 4:31pm
Larry, from experience....it will not do any good. 
Comment by Larry Self on November 22, 2011 at 3:39pm
Someone care to reply to Lock Piatt's continued misinformation on the meaning of "natural born Citizen" here? Oh, and he boasts of membership in this group.
Comment by Jon Brunke on November 21, 2011 at 7:27pm
 I read up on this guy after David's request.  I didn't feel qualified to deal with him and frankly didn't know what to make of him.  When he went after Vattel I knew he was full of bul.... oney    : ^)    Thank you David, Vern and Publius.
Comment by Vern Shotwell on November 21, 2011 at 6:02pm
Sorry, PH. I have been Breaking the Rules.
"1. STAY ON TOPIC! This Group is about our founding documents....."
Time to learn again!
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Comment by Publius Huldah on November 23, 2011 at 4:16pm
Vern, you are never out of line.
Larry dear, I had my fill of Lock Piatt when he was here. 
Comment by Publius Huldah on November 23, 2011 at 4:13pm
Here and there in various of my papers, I have addressed the Lie put out by the liberal fascist progressives that the "courts" are The Final Authority on all things legal, social, political, educational, etc.  
But some of those who do not understand that our Framers did not intend for one branch of the federal government (the judicial branch) to be the sole and final judge of the scope & extent of the powers of the federal government, continue to broadcast the Lie that "the courts" are The Final Authority on all such legal & policy matters. 
And so, those ignorant people (some of whom actually claim to be authorities on The Constitution!), copy stuff put out by leftist or pretend conservative organizations (such as the Goldwater Institute) which perpetuates The Monstrous Lie.
Perhaps I need to put it all in one paper.       
Comment by Vern Shotwell on November 23, 2011 at 3:42pm
Chr$, in my reference is Ascii, ancient. Don't bother, unless you want to play in HTML. Just don't copy the first visible character! Formatting isgone. Again, sorry for the off-topic comments, PH. I'll climb back in my hole and be quiet....
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Comment by Publius Huldah on November 25, 2011 at 8:35am
1. The President doesn't have a general authority to arrange for "hits" on American citizens. However, in war zones or in times of war, American citizens who become traitors are properly subject to being killed as enemy combatants.
Just as, if you and I invade a federal building and take hostages and start shooting hostages, it is unlikely that federal law enforcement will let us shoot every hostage, then capture us and try us in court.  At some point, when we refuse to surrender and continue shooting, the feds should send in snipers to shoot us.   We are demonstrated murderers, and to limit the harm we are doing, the feds must kill us.  Even thou we are U.S. citizens, we do not get a trial. There is no problem here!  We must be stopped.
If our troops can’t feasibly capture American citizens who are fighting with the Enemy (and who among us would want any of our Troops to risk their lives to capture alive such traitorous scum?), then why not shoot them?  They are the ones who chose to take up arms against us.
If you break into my house with a weapon after dark when I am alone, I will shoot you.  You won’t get a trial.  The purpose of War is to kill the bastards fighting on the other side; not capture them and give them trials. 
2. Re formal declarations of war against nation states:  WE MUST ADAPT TO THE CHANGING NATURE OF WARFARE!   The days when “war” was between nation states is over.   It was The Treaty of Westphalia (circa 1648) which restricted “warfare” to nation states.  Before that, “war” was a more decentralized  affair:  This Duke against that Earl,  armed peasants against such & such a town,  etc.
However, starting with WW I, warfare began to change once again:   It began to be no longer restricted to the nation states.   Loyalties began to transcend national boundaries:   hence,   the “international communism” of the Marxists.
WW II was fought between nation states;   but today, the Muslim fanatics transcend national boundaries.   William Lind is an authority on this new mode of warfare - I think he calls it “Fourth Generation Warfare”.    It is imperative that one understand that the Muslim jihadists have made the 17th century model of war set forth in the Treaty of Westphalia outmoded. 
WE must change our 17th century mindset about the nature of War. We need to adjust our thinking so we can handle the non-state enemy combatants who are making war on us.  These new Muslim enemy combatants come from all countries – even our own!  The Muslim terrorists who make war on us are not "soldiers" of a "nation state".  Their loyalties transcend national boundaries. 
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Comment by Publius Huldah on November 25, 2011 at 9:14am
Well I know our David isn't legitimizing Islamic jihadists - but I expect he is concerned about that Indonesian in the white house putting out hits on American citizens:  First an islamic jihadist; then a "tax protestor"; then ....us! 
Which just goes to show that We The People should spend at least as much time on deciding for whom we vote for President as we do to deciding which new car to buy.  Our President needs to be a person whom we can TRUST with such power.  We can't trust the current occupant of that office. 
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Comment by Publius Huldah on November 25, 2011 at 9:28am
My comments about the changing nature of warfare from the 17th century model to today's stateless jihadists does not interfere with the original intent of The Constitution one whit.  WARFARE changes - one reason we beat the British was b/c they practiced the old-fashioned warfare where the opposing forces formed lines and marched on each other; whereas our Citizen Militia practiced guerrilla warfare (Mel Gibson's unit illustrates this in "The Patriot"). 
After the Treaty of Westphalia, war was the exclusive province of Nation States.  But the Muslim jihadists have changed that:  NOW, war is conducted by stateless Muslims from many different countries (including ours), against Western Civilization.
But The Constitution remains able and effective - if we would only use it. The issue David raised shows the importance of electing an honorable and capable person to the Presidency - a person whom we can Trust as Commander in Chief.
Jon, search William Lind and fourth generation warfare - it is fascinating.  Lind is fascinating.
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Comment by Publius Huldah on November 26, 2011 at 11:19am
I may not have been clear.
"Due process" is a legal term which has reference to fair trials (the right to appear, to compel the attendance of witnesses in one's favor, the right to cross-examine witnesses for the other side, a jury of one's peers, etc.) . "Due process" is great - and we ought to have it in all our criminal trials.
But War is an entirely different matter.  In War, we need to kill every combatant on the other side we can. "Due process" has nothing to do with War.  War is about killing - it is not about "fairness" (as in a "fair" trial).  The fascist liberal left (and some of the libertarians) do us great harm when they apply "due process" principles to the battlefield.
While I was for some years a military officer, I was not a combatant.  But I know enough about war to know that our business in war is to Kill - it is not to find out who among the enemy is a U.S. Citizen and then read them their Miranda warnings! 
And the concept of "due process"  - fair trials - comes from the Bible:
Bearing false witness is condemned  (The Ten Commandments);  the evidence of two or more witnesses is required to prove a case (Deut 19:15 & Matthew 18:16);  public trials are required (Exodus 18:13); &  judges are required to be fair, impartial, & without favoritism.  (Deut. 1:16-17).  
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Comment by Publius Huldah on December 1, 2011 at 6:59am
It's any case of federal cognizance in which a State is a party where, pursuant to Art. III, Sec. 2, clause 2, the supreme Court has "original jurisdiction" [i.e., trial jurisdiction].   States are involved in many cases which are not "of federal cognizance" - e.g., state criminal prosecutions.  Those cases are properly handled in the State Court systems.
The cases involving States "of federal cognizance" are listed in clause 1:  E.g., "Controversies between two or more States", cases involving a State and a provision of the U.S. Constitution, Cases involving a State and federal statutes, etc.
The Constitution grants original jurisdiction [trial court] over such cases to the Supreme Court alone.  The Constitution does not grant jurisdiction over such cases to the lower federal courts. 
The great constitutional issue of our time is must the federal government obey the Constitution?  Today, most lawyers, federal judges, and everyone in Congress and the Executive Branch say, "no".
But the original intent of the Constitution is very clear:  ONLY the supreme Court has jurisdiction to conduct the trials of cases of federal cognizance in which a State is a party.  There are great policy reasons for this, as Alexander Hamilton points out in the Federalist Papers (see link below).  If any supreme Court judge seeks to shirk his responsibility imposed by The Constitution of the United States, and shove it onto lower courts to whom the power was NOT granted,  then he should be impeached and removed.
I have two papers on this which explain what Hamilton says about this in The Federalist Papers.   http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/original-and-appellate-...
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Comment by Publius Huldah on December 6, 2011 at 3:52pm
Thomas Angle, yours is an important question which goes to the heart of Our Constitution.  It is TRUE that the Constitution grants the power of the Purse to the House - the body closest to The People. [Remember, before the ill-advised 17th Amendment, U.S. Senators were chosen by the State Legislatures.  Also, the President was chosen by Electors - our Framers did not intend for The People to directly select the President.  So, the only part of the federal government selected directly by The People were the Representatives to the House.  This is why all bills for raising taxes must originate in the HOUSE!]
Say you are President of the United States.  Congress refuses to repeal obamacare.  The radicals & idiots on the supreme Court fail to declare it unconstitutional in its entirety. 
You know that obamacare is unconstitutional as outside the scope of the legislative powers granted to Congress by the Constitution.  What will you do?  Be guided by your Oath of Office:  You swore to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" (Art. II, Sec. 1, last clause).  Your duty is clear:  You must refuse to implement obamacare.  [And while you are at it, please demolish the Dept of Health & Human Services and send the swarms of bureaucrats who inhabit it home.  Or to N. Korea.]  
Your Oath of Office is your "check" on the lawlessness of Congress and the lawlessness of the supreme Court.  Your Oath is to The Constitution!  It is not to obey Congress or the various pervs on the supreme Court.
Comment by Publius Huldah on December 3, 2011 at 9:36am
Right, Land Shark:  Each of the three branches of the federal government must look to The Constitution to see what it authorizes them to do - and they can lawfully do only that which is authorized.
Thomas: I'll get back with an answer shortly to your excellent question.
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Comment by Publius Huldah on December 7, 2011 at 5:02pm
Landshark, If the House Rules say that all resolutions of Impeachment must be referred to the Judiciary Committee, then so be it.  So yes, any Congressman who is not on the Judiciary Committee must defer to that Committee on issues of impeachment. 
But as a practical matter, if the Judiciary Committee doesn't support impeachment, it won't go anywhere. 
If I were in Congress, House Judiciary is the one Committee I would want to be on!
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Comment by Publius Huldah on December 9, 2011 at 9:15am
Thomas, under the Hague & Geneva Conventions, enemy combatants may be held for the duration of hostilities.  No trials, no hearings, no "due process". They may be held until the hostilities are over.  That is a sensible and rational policy.
The liberal progressive left (and their ideological allies, the loony libertarians) have really muddled things by confusing & mixing up  the Law of War (the Hague & Geneva Conventions address treatment of POWs) with domestic criminal law! 
It is idiotic to give these POWs trials.   Plus, it is dangerous.  I'm telling you, as a former criminal defense lawyer, that in criminal trials conducted under American Rules, the evidence files of the prosecution are open to defense counsel.  Everything the prosecution has  - all the sources all the evidence - is available to defense counsel.  We call this "Discovery".   The prosecution may want to protect its "confidential informants", but defense counsel can ask the judge to force the prosecution to reveal the identity of these informants.  With increasingly leftist and reality-challenged federal judges, the inclination to protect such sources shrinks every day.  
Decades ago, I used to teach the Hague & Geneva Conventions, but don't remember the particulars on the required treatment of captured spies out of uniform.  
Again, part of our difficulties on the treatment of these people is that we are not fighting "Declared Wars"  - we are fighting things like "overseas contingencies" ; and we are fighting something very vague & indefinite:  Not "Islamic jahidist bastards" but  .... what do we call our enemy these days?  
Also, b/c of our idiotic immigration and open borders policies,  we are being flooded with enemy infiltrators.  We are sure to come to bloody war where we - on an individual, family and neighborhood level - must defend ourselves from the islamic jihadists.  Prepare.
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Comment by Publius Huldah on December 11, 2011 at 10:03am
Oh, I see that Landshark asked about our domestic labor market.  No, I never heard any talk from the early days of our Republic about protecting "American jobs".  Today, American jobs have disappeared b/c the federal government makes it too big a hassle & expense to have employees.  I am one of many who "shrugged" b/c the federal and state and county governments made running a business too big a hassle to put up with.  We have a fascist system where property nominally remains in private hands, but the federal government dictates all aspects of running private businesses and employer-employee matters.
And yes, Vern:  International commerce is one of the few matters over which The Member States delegated certain authority to the federal government.

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