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Reply by Mangus Colorado on December 21, 2012 at 2:18pmDelete
Here is a letter from Thomas Jefferson to Charles Hammond, 1821.

[As to danger of the Supreme Court's misinterpreting the Constitution so as to concentrate power in Washington] To this I am opposed; because when all government . . . shall be drawn to Washington . . . will become venal and oppressive . . . [As Great Britain's Government] . . . If States look with apathy on this silent descent of their government into the gulf which swallow all, we have only to weep over the human character formed uncontrollable but by rod of iron, and the blasphemers of man, as incapable of self-government, become his true historians.

They were men of incredible vision and able to predict the ills that would become the truths of our days.


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Reply by Mangus Colorado on December 23, 2012 at 10:10amDelete
REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH - THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY . . .


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This series is 58 videos which will explain in some detail why only Article V can restore the Original Constitution and the rights and liberties therein.
Lawyer Epstein is one of the best minds on planet earth - he uses plain language so all can understand - when you have finished these you will have become very informed and will capable of teaching your Legislators and fellow community citizens the way to Restore the proper role of that Federal government and the State government. And how we the people own our rights and they do not flow from government but from Natural Law.


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Roman law and Natural Law.
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Let us  with the 21st amendment which used Article V to repeal the 18th amendment. By the way this was done without any major problems of a run away convention - so where is the proof of those concerned about such a thing happening and thus the end of our Constitution? They have none and here is proof that the Article V State amendment process works and it took less than one year. So, now let us begin the journey to Restoration of the States Liberties and Freedoms and the Republics of each.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 21

Amendment 21 - 18th Amendment Repealed

1. The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
2. The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited.
3. The article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
Notes for this amendment:
Proposed 2/20/1933
Ratified 12/5/1933
History
21st Amendment
It would be a disservice to say that the 18th Amendment was completely ineffective. It would also be a disservice to say that the 18th Amendment caused the lawlessness embodied by people like Al Capone. The 18th Amendment did reduce alcohol consumption in the United States, and it did not cause organized crime. In the Prohibition era, alcohol consumption (measured in gallons of ethanol consumed) dropped to an average of less than a gallon per person per year, down from two and a half gallons in 1915. And organized crime existed before Prohibition, and existed after it, too.
That having been said, the Prohibition era did have a certain sense of lawlessness; the very fact that consumption was not eliminated is testimony to that; and the fact that organized crime manufactured and distributed the bulk of the illicit alcohol of the 1920's and early 1930's is evidence that gangsters were aided by Prohibition. Enforcement was spotty, with stills and speakeasies popping up in every population center. Over-zealous police and federal agents violated civil rights when searching for and destroying the paraphernalia of alcohol. While most Americans respected the law, were in favor of the law, the shine of "dry" began to wear off, especially as the Great Depression set in.
A movement began to form to repeal the 18th Amendment. Prohibition of alcohol was seen as an affront to personal liberty, pushed on the nation by religious moralists. Alcohol was also seen as a source of revenue for the local and national governments. The effort to elect "wet" legislators was as grand as that to elect "dry" ones almost two decades earlier. The Congress passed the amendment on February 20, 1933 (288 days). It mandated, for the first time, that conventions of the states were to vote on the amendment, rather than the legislatures, feeling that conventions would be more apt to vote to ratify - and they did, quickly — the ratification  was  on December 5, 1933. The 21st Amendment repealed the 18th, the first time an amendment had been repealed by another.
So, the Amendment to repeal could then duplicate the 21st except it would be to repeal the 14th, 16th and 17th amendments. Then just eliminate number 2 and number three can be the same.
LIBERTY AND FREEDOM CAN BE SO SIMPLE TO OBTAIN


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Reply by Mangus Colorado on December 16, 2012 at 9:55amDelete
The only remaining question now becomes - can we the people go in great numbers to our local State legislators and convince them to take this action - to take back our States rights and powers under the 10th amendment and to take away the Courts and DC usurped powers? Can we come together as a people and push back for our children's future? 
I say, the earth belongs to each of these generations during its course, fully and in its own right. The second generation receives it clear of the debts and incumbrances of the first, the third of the second, and so on. For if the first could charge it with a debt, then the earth would belong to the dead and not to the living generation. Then, no generation can contract debts greater than may be paid during the course of its own existence.  - Letter to James Madison (6 September 1789) Thomas Jefferson


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I am posting the entire series of Harvard Law School videos debating the Article V State Amendment process. It is quite good and will assist all gain at least a basis for further discussion and should serve to reduce fear of a run away convention.

Read more: http://www.912communique.com/forum/topics/article-v-state-amendment... 
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Fireside Chat on Reorganization of the Judiciary, March 9, 1937
 
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