Thursday, May 15, 2014

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Notes to all that read this thread . . .
In my opinion all Patriots are needed to lead the American Republic back from the edge of the abyss of Socialism/Democracy doom forever. Most can agree that the current SUPER STRONG CENTRAL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has destroyed many of the States rights and powers and the LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS OF THE INDIVIDUALS. 
Yes all I am yelling from the roof tops - WE THE PEOPLE ARE AT RISK OF LOSING OUR NATION - leaving our next generations in a huge debt hole requiring them to pay our DINNER TAB. Jefferson said that there would be no greater sin than for the current generation that received the nation free and clear of debt to pass it on to the next burdened by debts of the elders. We have now borrowed and/or promised over $ 100 trillion if you fully fund all entitlements and pension commitments along with the medical care for all. 
Is this a problem that is just to big to overcome? Some say yes and wee must let the system collapse on itself while others say no as the current GDP is over $ 16 trillion and if we use our natural resources, oil, gas, minerals, metals, lumber, water, and the selling of Federal land we can pay for it all - just once though for the assets will be gone. So, that being said would it no be a more prudent system to restore the powers of the Individual States to manage their resources using them to develop a new industrial paradigm that can sustain our economy? The Federal Central planning model has failed and all know this fact - it can not even support it's current plan much less the planned and promised further growth in government services.
Therefore the people of this nation must study the principle of the Article V State amendment process so that they might teach other citizens and legislators so we can repeal the 14th, 16th and 17th amendments which will reduce the Federal Central Government back into the small, weak government designed and delivered to WE THE PEOPLE by the Founders - Framers - Ratifiers. The above mentioned amendments are the primary source of our problems with the Legislature, the Executive and the Courts so they must be removed for Freedom and Liberty along with States rights and powers to be RESTORED.
It is my sincere pray that millions will join the effort and that we can be the cause that save the REPUBLIC as Franklin said - A Republic if you can keep it?
Thank you for reading and may god give us the strength and dedication to complete the task in our life time.
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A very good series on Legal theory and rights
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"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as  Europe ." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"I predict future happiness for A mericans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."

-- Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
If the A merican people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
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myths of guns and quotes from founders . . . also court information.
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Property
James Madison
March 29, 1792
[Madison wrote this newspaper article to explain the relationship
between property rights and other natural rights. — TGW]
This term in its particular application means "that dominion which one
man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in
exclusion of every other individual."
In its larger and juster meaning, it embraces every thing to which a
man may attach a value and have a right; and which leaves to every
one else the like advantage.
In the former sense, a man’s land, or merchandize, or money is called
his property.
In the latter sense, a man has a property in his opinions and the free
communication of them.
He has a property of peculiar value in his religious opinions, and in the
profession and practice dictated by them.
He has a property very dear to him in the safety and liberty of his
person.
He has an equal property in the free use of his faculties and free choice
of the objects on which to employ them.
In a word, as a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be
equally said to have a property in his rights.
Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly
respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or
his possessions.
Where there is an excess of liberty, the effect is the same, tho’ from an
opposite cause.
Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that
which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term

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Home > Document Library > Property Rights > Propertyparticularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is
a just government, which impartially secures to every man, whatever is
his own.
According to this standard of merit, the praise of affording a just
securing to property, should be sparingly bestowed on a government
which, however scrupulously guarding the possessions of individuals,
does not protect them in the enjoyment and communication of their
opinions, in which they have an equal, and in the estimation of some, a
more valuable property.
More sparingly should this praise be allowed to a government, where a
man’s religious rights are violated by penalties, or fettered by tests, or
taxed by a hierarchy. Conscience is the most sacred of all property;
other property depending in part on positive law, the exercise of that,
being a natural and unalienable right. To guard a man’s house as his
castle, to pay public and enforce private debts with the most exact
faith, can give no title to invade a man’s conscience which is more
sacred than his castle, or to withhold from it that debt of protection, for
which the public faith is pledged, by the very nature and original
conditions of the social pact.
That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where
the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal
liberty, is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the
service of the rest. A magistrate issuing his warrants to a press gang,
would be in his proper functions in Turkey or Indostan, under
appellations proverbial of the most compleat despotism.
That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where
arbitrary restrictions, exemptions, and monopolies deny to part of its
citizens that free use of their faculties, and free choice of their
occupations, which not only constitute their property in the general
sense of the word; but are the means of acquiring property strictly so
called. What must be the spirit of legislation where a manufacturer of
linen cloth is forbidden to bury his own child in a linen shroud, in order
to favour his neighbour who manufactures woolen cloth; where the
manufacturer and wearer of woolen cloth are again forbidden the
oeconomical use of buttons of that material, in favor of the
manufacturer of buttons of other materials!
A just security to property is not afforded by that government, under
which unequal taxes oppress one species of property and reward
another species: where arbitrary taxes invade the domestic sanctuaries
of the rich, and excessive taxes grind the faces of the poor; where the
keenness and competitions of want are deemed an insufficient spur to
labor, and taxes are again applied, by an unfeeling policy, as another
spur; in violation of that sacred property, which Heaven, in decreeing
man to earn his bread by the sweat of his brow, kindly reserved to him,
in the small repose that could be spared from the supply of his
necessities.
If there be a government then which prides itself in maintaining the
inviolability of property; which provides that none shall be taken directly
even for public use without indemnification to the owner, and yet
directly violates the property which individuals have in their opinions,
their religion, their persons, and their faculties; nay more, which
indirectly violates their property, in their actual possessions, in the labor
that acquires their daily subsistence, and in the hallowed remnant of
time which ought to relieve their fatigues and soothe their cares, the
influence [inference?] will have been anticipated, that such agovernment is not a pattern for the United States.
If the United States mean to obtain or deserve the full praise due to
wise and just governments, they will equally respect the rights of
property, and the property in rights: they will rival the government that
most sacredly guards the former; and by repelling its example in
violating the latter, will make themselves a pattern to that and all other
governments.
[From Philip B. Kurland and Ralph Lerner, ed., The Founders’
Constitution (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1987), 1:598-99.] 
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